. . Subject: Re: Fall of the Republic . . . . . . . . . . > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... > ... For the record: this problem can be solved somewhat, because - A people can be policed by a significant group of police-men. - A police force can be policed by an internal police. The people at large can not police a group as large as an internal police, however as a people they can get to know one individual. If the people at large manage to select one individual they trust a little, for example through outstanding conduct in the past, and if they make that person sufficiently loyal by rewards, income and power and the stability of that position if that person does well, then that single person could do its best to inspect the internal police. It is possible for a people at large to know one person quite well if that person is constantly followed around, almost everything he/she does gets known, and is in that position for decades or permanently (until deposed). - A single head can inspect the internal police. - A single head can be inspected by the people at large. The obvious choice is then: a head of state, a head of state is often in the spotlight. It doesn't need power over the Government, the law making and the executive. If it main function is to keep the Government to the law by an extensive inspection and exposing power, the Government and police and internal police could be made fearful of that Sovereign Inspector. For this reason I'd suggest that this single head has the power to break down any Government door, inspect any files of Government and businesses whatsoever, on nothing more then a whim, not having to explain the reason for the inspection. If by that mechanism the internal police can be kept righteous, they can keep the police righteous, the police can keep the Government and the people righteous, and the people can keep that head of state, that Sovereign inspector, righteous. > ... > ... > ... Define 'collapse.' The possibilities seem: - Hyper-inflation out of the debt. - Cancelling the debt, and a big f*ck you to the rich and greedy. - Creating insane taxation levels (which is I guess what the rich hope will happen, they will then collect the tax-revenues directly under the pretext of debt payements). - Some engineered solution that has all the rich on board, riding the people, cancelling or postponing part of the debts, keeping the status quo going in the eyes of the people who know nothing anyway, but trying to push wages down as much as possible in the higher wage areas (going on with the slow decline of the world its economy/society, which at some point is going to have to be resisted by the people because otherwise it will end in the horrors of the 19 hundreds and even middle ages all over again). It is not that easy to get all the rich on board, because there are so many of them, with so many different interests; some local, some international, some are into the debt racket others aren't, some are here others there: the interests are often contradictory. - War. There is, by the way, nothing 'funny' about fiat money. It is a system backed by taxation and legal tender and it works fine if it is properly managed. The 'funny' part is in the private banking and incompetent Government controls (or lack thereof). The 'funny' banking system.