. . Subject: people control through subcouncil-2-subcouncil system with immediate representation . . . . . Two mechanism: 1. Groups of people (per 50) elect one representative, and can replace him/her for anyone through another election at any moment. 2. These delegates group (per 50) to form one legal decision making state council in that area (competent in all matters that don't belong to individuals or businesses or larger areas). They group in subcouncils of 10 persons. A proposal entering the council is discussed by one subcouncil, then bounces back/forth to other subcouncils until they are all in agreement. All proceedings are public and published, and typically (if not legally as well) bouncing a proposal to another subcouncil takes time; typically in the order of a day or even a week (just for one bounce.) Now for a little example scenario in this model: Proposal: A new line of trees along side a road. Proposed by: 5 persons, who wrote a letter to the delegate of the delegate of the voter group one of them is a part. Council: local area council with 50 persons, 5 subcouncils: Red, Blue, Yellow, White and Brown. Last general election: 1.5 years ago, during a time when there where big questions about local and provincial taxes. Complication: a school is at the end of that road, many children ride on bike on that road which is unsafe. Another proposal is already humming around the parents of that school that there should be a bike-road on that same route. Because of the taxation issues quite a few voter groups decided to vote for someone who they thought most likely to deal with the taxation problem. But - the council is meeting only part-time one day in the week - all but one of these are still on the council. They do however not have a special affinity with nature. The proposal enters through that delegate at the subcouncil meeting of which he is a part, which is the red subcouncil. They agree, there should be put a line of poplars there on both sides. They eye the yellow subcouncil since they know there is someone who loves nature a lot too, they pass the proposal to the yellow council, who will discuss it in 2 days. At this time too few people take notice of the subcouncil proceedings to notice anything, although it is all published freely, the minutes of the meeting and the proposals. The proposal passes the yellow council with the ammendment that there shouldn't just be trees but also underbrush planted. Therefore it passes back to the red subcouncil, who agrees. The so ammended proposal is now to go toward the blue subcouncil by the decision of the red subcouncil. That council meets every monday and since it is now thursday that will be next week. On saturday one parent is bored on Saturday and is trolling through the council proceedings and hits on the tree proposal. The local newspaper hadn't yet said anything about it since it only comes out once a month. The issue is far too small for the daily regional, certainly at this stage of discussions. A child of the school also hears about the proposal by chance from one of the 5 who proposed it. That child tells it to her parents on Sunday. Through the usual chatter channels the information ends up with the people who are thinking about a bike-road for their children along the same route. They get startled because they worry that once this proposal is through the council it may be hard work to undo it and get a bike-road passed somehow. Sunday evening they find out by searching through the red subcouncil proceedings that the proposal will next go to the blue subcouncil. The next day some of these parents talk a bit back & forth at the school about the issue. They decide to inform the blue subcouncil about their plan for a bike-road there, noting the possible contradiction between both plans. But the blue subcouncil was still awash with tax worried persons, who quickly compute that young trees there is a fraction of the cost of a new bikeway. The blue subcouncil even makes a point that no bike-road should be build there because it would stress the budget further. At this point some more people start to hear about it, because the parents of the children put up a flyer at the super market about the issue, asking for people to support the bike-road rather then the trees. Some people who are in the voter-groups for the blue subcouncil get upset, actually very angry, that budget concern go over the safety of children. They read the minutes of the meeting for the person that represents their voter group. They realize these actions by their delegate directly reflect back on them ! But they do not support this policy one bit, in fact is has made them angry. Duly motivated they get in touch with their representative. Of the 3 who caused the proposal for the trees to pass, one of them is willing to pass an abstention vote if the proposal comes around next time. Meanwhile the proposal is back with the red-subcouncil, who by now also has some delegates who are aware of the bike-contradiction, and inform the subcouncil of the issue. The red subcouncil decides to postpone the proposal for 2 weeks, to think about the contradiction, and to allow for the public to have their influence in due process. By next saturday the vote-administrators have messaged their voter-groups for discussion and possible revote on their delegate. One of these delegates are replaced because their intention does not square with what the voter-group wants. Both voter-groups want that bike-road, and they decide to use maximum pressure to that end by electing different delegates. One of the parents who wants the bike-road is now duly elected local council representative in the blue subcouncil. The week after that the blue-subcouncil decides to message the red subcouncil that their previous finding is no longer valid due to change of their membership. ... (The above does not mean that you should re-elect new delegates every time a new subject comes along, to elect specialists for that issue. It only points out that such power does exist if things happen that require a strong force from the people into the Government to change an apparently fixated opinion not according to the will of those represented.) ... One possibly further scenario is: the blue subcouncil decides against trees on the bike road, and they send their proposal to the brown subcouncil, and at the same time they issue a plan for a bike road and send it to the white subcouncil. Say they both agree. Then the plan is re-discussed in the red-subcouncil, who now in light of the new situation retracts the proposal. The yellow subcouncil is not happy though, they still want those trees and a simplified bike road. White, brown and blue subcouncils end up 2 weeks later behind a plan for the bike road, red is yet to discuss it, and yellow is against in majority. Yellow passes their proposal to the white subcouncil but it is rejected in total in favor of the existing bike-road plan agreed with the blue-subcouncil. The same happens for yellow with brown, and then with blue. The red-subcouncil is divided equally. Since the proposals have run their course through the subcouncils, further bounces make no sense since no new evidence or arguments are appearing, the blue subcouncil - who has a majority for their plan - had contacted the council chairperson (part of the yellow subcouncil). The issue is put on the agenda of the meeting of the council, where all the issues relating to this road are to be discussed. It ends up discussed on a Saturday, but since the debate was somewhat heated, it was rescheduled for a second term the Saturday after that. At this point it also seems to become public perception that most people want that bike road for safety of children. There seems like nothing can stop the bike road at this point. The council decides 38 in favor, 5 abstentions and 6 against to the intention-plan to build a bike road, details of which still need to be discussed. (For the sake of this argument it is assumed that trees and bike road are really contradictory.) By the next week a proposal for trees on another location has entered the red subcouncil. The blue subcouncil is working on the details of the bike-road plan, such as cost, quality, contractor, etc. The brown subcouncil is discussing the local and regional taxation burden because they expect to get a budget proposal about a bike-road in their mail box in the coming weeks ... * In the 'worst case' scenario, you could re-appoint every single member of a council within 1 day. This does require some motivation and mobilization of the voter-groups in question, but the more important the issue and greater the disagreement with what is going on in the council, the more voter-groups will be willing to be so motivated. A majority-vote of a voter-group should be enough (I guess) to re-appoint someone: if only 32 persons in a voter-group of 58 show up, 29 of which vote for a new delegate (I guess knowing it is all or nothing with that turnout), and 2 abstentions, then the remaining people who didn't come are overruled and someone new is appointed. If the vote-administrator doesn't show up, with enough votes you could also re-appoint a vote-administrator; then all would be legal according to the law of the land. This isn't a game or advice show: it is the true power. If need be the police and judiciary will uphold it by force.