. . Subject: Re: Austerity measures are a great idea ... on the banks/financials. . . . . . . > ... > ... [...] > ... > ... > ... [...] Rod, good to see you are back on a roll. The best thing done so far is a mix of capitalism (free trade!), and socialism, is because it is closest to the system I outlined. What is good in the current system is *not* the financial layer. But it is the free initiative, the failure of bad corporations, free trade in products and services, and not having the soil controlled by barons and so on anymore, and a higher then almost ever (dare I say: ever) of state democracy (now, as before, under dire threat from the financial layer, who love dictatorship in the corporations for maximum profit.) To reiterate: this situation is best because it is closest ever to my design, and going into my design was probably never a smaller step then now (for western society at least, american indian society was often already there, but you destroyed that and you don't even know it; their designs where maybe simpler - didn't need to be complex because they where stone-age - but essentially they where going great, Israel was also close but they messed it up beoynd repair with their state tyranny that they wanted.). Now I have said too much, and the birdbrains have become confused again :(. No fuckwits, it is science, and then compared to what other nations have done, which usually doesn't square much, but sometimes it does quite a bit. What nations ? The most famous and honored in the whole world that is, such as Israel and the native north american indians. They did so great because they where even closer to this design then the current capitalism / socialism mix (which now seems headed for a war, that could eject the financial layer and socialize it perhaps finally, causing the model to converge even closer to the truth of economics). It's a time of doom ? Rather a time of hope for better, because the idiotic finance layer is self destructing, attempting to drag with it the entire world but it's not a guarantee they'll succeed in that. We could end up unzipping and booting them, erect another component of the truth in economics in real life (depending in big ways on adequate state democracy, though, so we need to strike a dual blow: for a more strictly non-corrupt democratic state, and then have that wield the finance power in a localized setup, distributed into many small funds controlled by the people in those localities.) --