. . Subject: Illusions of 'spreading' crises . . . . . The story seems to be pushed that the crisis in Greece is "spreading." That is IMHO the same kind of "spreading" that you get when you shake a table with a field of dominos standing on end. It will spread and give that appearance, but they would fall anyway, not because they where touched but because they where unstable. All these nations are in the debt pyramid scam, Holland, England, USA, Greece, they all do it. You could fairly say that all these Governments are combinations of corruption and ineptitude. Greece then defaults, say, which may hurt banks in other nations who usually participate in the state debt racket. But say they get hurt badly by the default (of course only after the top guys secured their funds off shore, right ?), then they can not support the debt racket in Holland any longer. Say normally Holland could support the debt corruption for anothery 10 years before crisis, because banks can and do still buy the debt (better then paying taxes for the same amount, isn't it ?). Boom, cash wiped out because Greece debt racket collapsed, which is what would happen in all these nations one day anyway, or at least that appears to be the goal and the way it goes (because you could remove the danger in several ways, but none of these ways is actually taken, suggesting they want this crisis). Then there is less money in many banks to simply give Holland more money to pay old debt with new debt (pyramid scheme, an illegal effort by the way right ?), so then suddenly Holland its debt collapsed 10 years prior it would have collapsed anyway. Everone then has a lot of fun blaming Greece and the "spreading of the crisis," like as if it was a disaster that 'they' didn't engineer into the system themselves. They did engineer it, because the people simply don't know that the Governments are paying old debt with new debt. If you tell people they shut down, they can't believe their Government are that corrupt. They don't stand for that. All that it would have taken is a significant pushing the issue in the paper and politics, eventually enough people would understand and make the Governments stop playing the debt racket with the rich through national debt games. But they didn't, hence they want this. I think it is clear what this means: it means they are preparing for civil unrest and take a stab at democracy. For this they need loyal soldiers and as any criminals as they can get. -- http://www.socialism.nl <-- Measures to save the day.